This Saturday Morning: Noelle McCarthy stands in for Kim Hill.

Noelle McCarthy

Noelle McCarthy Photo: RNZ

Noelle starts the show by speaking to Patricia Lohr who, as medical director for the British Pregnancy Advisory Service, has ideas on how Ireland can establish a safe, equitable abortion service - and how New Zealand can improve its own; the Guardian's deputy political editor, Anne Perkins, does a deep dive into a huge week in British politics; Graham Watson on Tour de France - the competition he's photographed for 40 years; Venus Envy, a podcast marking 125 years of women's suffrage, debuts; neuroscientist Gregory Berns asks "What's It Like to be a Dog?"; author Anna Cahill on the life of one of New Zealand's most revered expatriate artists and her uncle, Douglas MacDiarmid; German journalist and former war correspondent Carolin Emcke on the translation into English of her memoir of coming out, How We Desire, and finally art crime expert, Arthur Tompkins, examines how the Bulgarian mafia and Interpol became enmeshed in the theft of Marc Chagall’s Othello and Desdemona in 1988.  




8.09  Patricia Lohr - Better abortion laws

Dr Patricia Lohr

Dr Patricia Lohr Photo: supplied

Dr Patricia Lohr is the Medical Director of the British Pregnancy Advisory Service. With an aim of encouraging young doctors to work in abortion care, she set up BPAS' highly successful Reproductive Health Externship, which gives medical students insight into abortion provision and the women who need it, and has facilitated training for post-graduates unable to obtain sufficient clinical exposure to abortion care in their training programmes. Lohr is also on the board of Medical Students for Choice, whose mission is creating tomorrow's abortion providers and pro-choice physicians.  She was recently in New Zealand for a conference of local abortion providers.




8.35 Anne Perkins - A big week in British politics

Melania and Donald Trump disembark Air Force One at Stansted Airport, north of Londo.

Melania and Donald Trump disembark Air Force One at Stansted Airport, north of Londo. Photo: AFP

Anne Perkins

Anne Perkins Photo: Guardian

Anne Perkins is The Guardian's deputy political editor.  She will talk to Noelle about significant events in the political life of the UK this week, including two major resignations in the ruling Conservative Party, a visit from US President Donald Trump, and the continuing effort to find a solution to Brexit troubles.




9.04 Graham Watson - Photographing the Tour de France for 40 years

Graham Watson with Tour de France 2011 winner Cadel Evans

Graham Watson with Tour de France 2011 winner Cadel Evans Photo: supplied

A former society photographer in London, Graham Watson began photographing cycling in 1977 during a visit to see the Tour de France end in Paris. He went on to become the main supplier of cycling images to magazines like Cycling Weekly (UK), Velo News (USA), and New Zealand Road Cyclist (now called New Zealand Cycling Journal). He photographed the 1987 Tour de France for Sports Illustrated, and was commissioned by Newsweek to photograph the comeback Tour de France of cancer survivor Lance Armstrong in 1999. Watson became the first-ever official photographer for the governing body of cycling, the Union Cycliste Internationale, in 1998, a role he kept for almost 20 years until his retirement in 2017.  Watson now lives in Nelson and speaks to Noelle as this year's Tour de France competition kicks off, with a record four New Zealanders in the starting line-up.




9.35 Venus Envy -  A Feminism in NZ Podcast in five parts

Noelle McCarthy and PM Jacinda Ardern

Noelle McCarthy and PM Jacinda Ardern Photo: supplied

Venus Envy

Venus Envy Photo: supplied

In our first part of Venus Envy -made in association with Are We There Yet?, the new women's suffrage and equality exhibition at Auckland Museum, Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern talks to Noelle about leadership, #metoo and marching for women, and a veteran support worker explains why domestic violence is the "blue flame at the centre" of all our social ills.  

Full-length versions of the podcast series can be found at



10.04 Gregory Berns - What it's like to be a Dog

Professor Gregory Berns

Professor Gregory Berns Photo: Gregory Berns

Gregory Berns is a distinguished professor of neuroeconomics at Emory University in Atlanta, Georgia, where he directs the Centre for Neuropolicy and the Facility for Education & Research in Neuroscience.  He is the author of many books including How Dogs Love Us, and his latest work is What It's Like to be a Dog. Berns specialises in the use of brain imaging technologies to understand human - and now, canine - motivation and decision-making.  For the last three years, Berns has pursued his dream of using MRI technology to try and decode what dogs really think.




10.30 Carolin Emcke - How We Love

Carolin Emcke

Carolin Emcke Photo: supplied

Carolin Emcke is a German author and journalist who studied philosophy and history in London, Frankfurt and at Harvard University. From 1998 to 2013 she reported from war and crisis zones including Kosovo, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Gaza and Haiti; the first six years of that period she reported for Der Spiegel. She has written a number of books, taught at universities in Germany and the US, and in 2016 received the Peace Prize of the German Book Trade.  Emcke's 2013 autobiography Wie wir begehren  (How We Desire), which details her coming out, has recently been translated into English. 




11.04 Anna Cahill -  Colours of a Life: The life and times of Douglas MacDiarmid

Anna Cahill

Anna Cahill Photo: supplied

Anna Cahill is a Auckland-born writer based in Brisbane. She has just published a biography of one of New Zealand's most well-known expatriate artists, Douglas Kerr MacDiarmid (her uncle) called Colours of a Life. MacDiarmid, who left New Zealand as a young man to embrace the culture of Europe, was a friend of other creative countrypeople of his generation including Rita Angus, Charles Brasch, Allen and Betty Curnow, Theo Schoon, Frank Sargeson and James Weir.  At the age of 96 MacDiarmid still lives in Montmartre, Paris. Colours of a Life was launched at the NZ Portrait Gallery on July 12, with an exhibition of MacDiarmid works from public and private collections  on display until September 23.   


The colourful life and art of Douglas MacDiarmid




11.40 Arthur Tompkins - Art Crime:  The case of Marc Chagall's Othello and Desdemona

Orthello and Desdemona by Marc Chagall

Orthello and Desdemona by Marc Chagall Photo: Wikimediacommons

Arthur Tompkins is a trustee of the NZ Art Crime Research Trust and a District Court Judge in Wellington. In 2016 he edited Art Crime and Its Prevention (Lund Humphries, London), and the same publisher has just released his new illustrated book, Plundering Beauty: A History of Art Crime During War.  Today he talks to Noelle about the easy stealing, but difficult on-selling, of the 1911 work by French/Russian modernist artist Marc Chagall, Orthello and Desdemona.




Books mentioned in this episode:

40 Years of Cycling Photography 
by Graham Watson
ISBN: 9780473406837 
Graham Watson Publishing

What It's Like to be a Dog
by Gregory Berns 
ISBN: 9781786073617
Oneworld Publications 

Colours of a Life: the life and time of Douglas MacDiarmid 
by Anna Cahill
ISBN: 9780473423834
Mary Egan Publishing