First Up - The Podcast, Friday 3 November

On today's First Up pod - Donald Trump and Robert De Niro have both been in New York courtrooms this week - as has Bevan Hurley who will tell us how those trials are progressing; the special votes have been counted - we talk with coalition veteran Peter Dunne about the National Party's options for government and we hear the hellish first hand story of the pressure our hospitals are facing. First Up - Voice of the Nathan!