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Afternoons with Jesse Mulligan for Wednesday 21 October 2020

Critter of the Week t-shirts

Critter of the Week t-shirts Photo: RNZ/Liminal

Critter of the week t-shirts are back!

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1:00 Ministry of Health COVID update LIVE

1:17 Pink salt found to contain high levels harmful heavy metals

Australian researchers have found, contrary to popular belief, that pink salt does not have the health benefits many claim and actually contain high levels of harmful heavy metals.

Jesse speaks to Dr Flavia Fayet-Moore the CEO of NRAUS, which is the independent research company which examined 31 pink salts available in Australia.

Dr Flavia Fayet-Moore (L)

Dr Flavia Fayet-Moore (L) Photo: supplied

1:27 Vet shortage a complex issue for the profession

Following an interview with a specialist veterinarian recruiter about a shortage in the profession of qualified vets, a number of vets got in touch to share about the issues facing them.

The Strand Vet, Dr Megan Alderson shares her insights with Jesse about why there is a shortage and why many have chosen to abandon their vet careers.

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1:37 Ngā Taonga Sound Archives: Compulsory Military Training and National Service

While we wait for the outcome of the two referenda voted on in Saturday’s general election, today we take a listen to sound archives about an earlier referendum: the 1949 vote which introduced Compulsory Military Training. This meant all New Zealand men had to serve up to 14 weeks full-time military training, when they turned 18, and it later became known as National Military Service.

1:55 Afternoons Quiz Robert Kelly

RNZ producer and onetime bookseller Robert Kelly presents his weekly quiz.

Robert Kelly

Robert Kelly Photo: John Duke

2.12 Ellie Jay's podcast picks

Critic Ellie Jay reviews four titles - The Orange Tree, Changes, I Secretly Recorded My Boyfriend and The Baron of Botox 

2:25 Bookmarks with journalist Jehan Casinader 

Today our Bookmarks guest is TV and print journalist Jehan Casinader.

Jehan was named Broadcast Reporter of the Year at the Voyager Media Awards this year. 

He's also just written a book This is Not How it Ends about his experience of depression.

He joins Jesse in the studio to share his story and his favourite songs, books, TV, films and podcasts!

Journalist Jehan Casinader, who's the author of This is Not How it Ends.

Journalist Jehan Casinader, who's the author of This is Not How it Ends. Photo: Supplied / JET PRODUCTIONS NZ

Jehan's picks:


The News: A User's Manual - Alain De Botton (2014)

'Reasons To Stay Alive' by Matt Haig (2015)


The Thick Of It (2005)

Gilmore Girls! (2000 - 2007)

Network New Zealand (1985)


Shattered Glass (2003)

Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory (1971 - the original)

Into The Wild (2007)


Ray of Light - Madonna

We Could Forever - Bonobo

Where to get help:

Need to Talk? Free call or text 1737 any time to speak to a trained counsellor, for any reason.

Lifeline: 0800 543 354 or text HELP to 4357

Suicide Crisis Helpline: 0508 828 865 / 0508 TAUTOKO (24/7). This is a service for people who may be thinking about suicide, or those who are concerned about family or friends.

Depression Helpline: 0800 111 757 (24/7) or text 4202

Youthline: 0800 376 633 (24/7) or free text 234 (8am-12am), or email

If it is an emergency and you feel like you or someone else is at risk, call 111.

3:10 Dr Hannah Korrel - How to break up with friends

Breaking up is hard to do. Sometimes breaking up with a toxic friend is even harder than ending a romantic relationship says neuropsychologist Dr Hannah Korrel. She says too often we put up with behavior from friends we would never tolerate from anyone else. She gives her best advice on when and how to let go in her new book, How To Break Up With Friends

Dr Hannah Korrel

Dr Hannah Korrel Photo: Supplied

3:35 Stories from Our Changing World. Grass and the science of urban CO2

Jocelyn Turnbull from GNS Science is measuring how much CO2 we're producing in NZ towns - and she's doing it by cutting the grass. That's because a blade of grass is an accurate record of atmospheric carbon dioxide over the time it grew. Jocelyn explains to Alison Ballance how to unlock the climate record of grass.

3:45 The Panel with Wendyl Nissen and Liam Hehir