On Saturday Morning:  Kim talks to British acting great Vanessa Redgrave, who has just made her directorial debut on the documentary Sea Sorrow, which was produced by her son Carlo NeroUS professor Allan Lichtman joins us to talk about his new book setting out how Donald Trump might be impeached; Australian Mike Myers describes what we can learn from our trans-Tasman cousins about social housing; Warren Brookbank discusses New Zealand's first Centre for Non-Adversarial Justice; Romain Troublé on the stewardship of the late Sir Peter Blake's schooner; Anthony Grant explains why he poured his life savings into his Matakana-based Sculptureum, and finally ex-Green MP Holly Walker on why she walked away from politics.


8:12 Vanessa Redgrave - Sea Sorrow

Vanessa Redgrave

Vanessa Redgrave Photo: zh.wikipedia.org


British stage and screen legend Vanessa Redgrave is in Sydney with her son Carlo Nero to attend the opening of their new documentary Sea Sorrow at the Sydney Film Festival. Redgrave decided to make her directorial debut on the film, which her son has produced, after seeing footage of the body of Syrian toddler Aylan Kurdi washed up on a Turkish beach in 2015.  Sea Sorrow focuses on efforts in the British parliament to allow more refugee children into the UK. Redgrave has been an actor since 1958, when she first appeared on London's West End, and has appeared in dozens of plays and films during her acclaimed career, winning the Oscar, Emmy, Tony, BAFTA, Olivier, Cannes, Golden Globe, and the Screen Actors Guild awards. 

9:05 Allan Lichtman - Impeaching Trump

Allan Lichtman

Allan Lichtman Photo: Supplied

Allan Lichtman is Distinguished Professor of History at American University in Washington, DC. He is the author of nine books and hundreds of scholarly and popular articles and has served as an expert witness in more than 80 voting and civil rights cases. His book, The Keys to the White House presents a historically based prediction system that has correctly forecast the outcome of the popular vote for president in all eight elections since 1984. He also wrote White Protestant Nation: The Rise of the American Conservative Movement, which was a finalist for the 2008 National Book Critics Circle award in non-fiction. Lichtman's latest book is The Case for Impeachment, which lays out the reasons he believes Congress could remove Trump from the Oval Office.

9:30 Mike Myers - Aussie answers in social housing 

Mike Myers

Mike Myers Photo: supplied

Mike Myers is the managing director of Australia's National Affordable Housing Consortium (NAHC) which has built over 3,500 new affordable rental homes in the last seven years, attracting $1.3b in private investment. The NAHC has also recently established a fully market-based shared-equity home ownership programme called BuyAssist Australia, to help people transition from renting to buying. With over 30 years' experience in social and affordable housing in Australia and the UK, Myers was recently in New Zealand to address the Community Housing Aotearoa IMPACT conference held in Wellington, where he shared the lessons New Zealand could learn from Australia.


10:05 Warren Brookbanks - NZ's Centre for Non-Adversarial Justice

Warren Brookbanks

Warren Brookbanks Photo: supplied

Warren Brookbanks was a Professor of Law at Auckland University, where he taught from 1983 to 2016. He is co-author of New Zealand's leading criminal law textbook Principles of Criminal Law (4th ed) with Andrew Simester, and has authored and co-edited a number of other leading texts on criminal justice and psychiatry and the law. Brookbanks is a founding trustee of the Odyssey House Trust (NZ) and is a former president of the Australian and New Zealand Association of Psychiatry, Psychology and Law (ANZAPPL).  He's just launched the Centre for Non-Adversarial Justice at AUT, which is the first of its kind in New Zealand, aiming to provide leadership to academics, the legal profession, and others engaged in non-adversarial problem-solving.


10:40am  Romain Troublé - Sir Peter Blake's Legacy 

Romain Trouble

Romain Trouble Photo: Tara Foundation

Romain Troublé is managing director of the Tara Expeditions Foundation - the Tara is formerly Sir Peter Blake's vessel Seamaster. With a double degree in biotechnology and business management, Troublé also participated in the America's Cup in 2000 and 2003. Tara has traveled 350,000km since 2003, completing 10 expeditions to study and understand the impact of climate and ecological change on the ocean. The schooner returns to New Zealand on Saturday, July 1 for the first time since the death of the Kiwi yachtsman and environmentalist Sir Peter and, while berthed in Auckland, there will be a (free) outdoor photo and video exhibition, with a focus on oceans.


11:05 Anthony Grant - Taking a punt on the Sculptureum

Anthony Grant by Anna Kidman

Anthony Grant by Anna Kidman Photo: Supplied

Auckland-based husband and wife team, lawyers Anthony and Sandra Grant, have just opened a hugely ambitious art project near Matakana, north of Auckland, called Sculptureum.  For 12 years, the couple have filled their 10ha vineyard and restaurant site with hundreds of sculptures - including the most substantial piece of glass art on public display in Australasia (a chandelier by Dale Chihuly), works by Cezanne, Matisse, Chagall and Rodin, brightly coloured animals by the Cracking Art Group and hundreds of other pieces by New Zealand and international artists. Anthony Grant also co-authored The Law of Intellectual Property in New Zealand (1989) and wrote the New Zealand chapter in ADR and Trusts: An international guide to arbitration and mediation of trust disputes (Grant Jones and Peter Pexton, 2015).


11:35 Holly Walker - The Whole Intimate Mess

Holly Walker

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Holly Walker is a writer, reviewer and children's advocate based in Lower Hutt. From 2011-2014 she was a Green MP and has previously worked as a public servant, political advisor, and journalist. She holds an MPhil in Development Studies from the University of Oxford, undertaken on a Rhodes Scholarship. She is a regular contributor to The Spinoff, where she co-hosts a monthly parenting podcast, and her essays and interviews have been published by The Wireless, Sunday magazine, and in two recent books. She currently works as a principal advisor at the Office of the Children's Commissioner. Walker lives in Petone with her partner and three-year-old daughter and is expecting her second child later in 2017. Her memoir is called The Whole Intimate Mess: Motherhood, Politics and Women's Writing.



Books referred to in this episode


The Case for Impeachment

by Allan Lichtman 

ISBN: 9780062696823



The Whole Intimate Mess

by Holly Walker

ISBN: 9780947518912

Bridget Williams Books 



Music played in this show

Artist: The Mountain Goats
Song: Unicorn Tolerance
Composer: John Darnielle
Album: Goths
Label: Merge Records
Played at: 8:50