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Afternoons with Jesse Mulligan for Monday 3 May 2021


1:12 First song


1:17 Aotearoa's relationship with China under strain? 

This morning the Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said in a speech to the China Business Summit that there are  “some things on which China and New Zealand do not, cannot, and will not agree”. She also told the attendees that “this need not derail our relationship. It is simply a reality.” 

New Zealand is in an interesting position at the moment diplomatically in the pacific terms of its relationship with China, but what is that relationship and what state is it in? 

Associate Professor in Political Science and International Relations at Victoria University Jason Young joins Jesse to discuss what the relationship is, and whether it is under unusual strain at the moment. 

China and New Zealand two flags on flagpoles and blue cloudy sky background

Photo: 123RF

1.27 Recycling bins confiscated after residents put the wrong rubbish in

Residents in Ōtautahi are having their recycling bin privileges revoked if they don't following the rules about what rubbish should be put in them, which contaminates the recycling plant. 

The council has picked up 644 bins from the kerb-side since July last year. The offending parties had been given 3 warnings before having their bin removed.  

Is this the right way to go about improving recycling? Do we need a stick as well as a carrot? Gina Dempster from Wastebusters in Wānaka has been grappling with improving recycling behaviour for decades. She joins Jesse to discuss why every bin matters. 

Christchurch recycling bins.

Photo: RNZ / Conan Young

1.34 Next steps for women's rugby 

An historic occasion took place over the weekend at Eden Park, another one, this one was huge moment for women's rugby when two super rugby women's teams played a one off at the stadium. Alice Soper says it marks a big step forward for women's rugby in Aotearoa and in an article in the Spin Off she argues its now time for a giant leap. 

Chiefs prop Tanya Kalounivale on the charge

Chiefs prop Tanya Kalounivale on the charge Photo: Photosport

1:45 Great NZ Album

Today's great NZ album sis Warratahs TVC.

2:10 Television Critic Guy Williams

Today Guy Williams is reviewing Starstruck TVNZ  - Rose Matafeo's new show and Creamerie TVNZ a new show from the flat 3 team

Creamerie cast (Perlina Lau 3rd right)

Creamerie cast (Perlina Lau 3rd right) Photo: supplied

Thomas McGrath

Thomas McGrath Photo: Supplied

2:20  Black Sheep

It is season 6 of Black Sheep. Today we have the first in a new series from RNZ's Black Sheep programme. William Ray is telling us the story of a notorious slaver called Thomas McGrath, who sailed away with half the population of a small Tongan Island in 1863.

2:20 Expert on Dementia

More than 70,000 people in New Zealand live with dementia, and by 2050 that figure is expected to rise to 170,000.

Today's expert is Rhonda Preston-Jones, she's the clinical lead at Dementia Auckland. She talks about the potential causes of the disease, the impacts on families and how best to talk to dementia patients.

You can email any questions for her to

Dementia patients in a housing complex in Hameln, Germany.

Photo: AFP / Ole Spata / DPA


3:10 Concert pianist, Mahani Teave: from Rapa Nui to the world and back again.

Mahani Teave

Mahani Teave Photo: Mahani Teave

On a beat up old upright piano, the only one for 35-hundred kilometres, Mahani Teave first discovered her gift. But she would have to leave her home on Rapa Nui, Easter Island, to study piano and become an international concert pianist.

Ten years ago, she returned to open the island's first music school.

We'll talk to Mahani Teave about her first  album Rapa Nui Odyssey.


3:35 Voices

The Government recently loosened some travel restrictions between India and New Zealand and since last week New Zealand citizens living in India have been able to start returning home.

But for thousands of others, the future is still uncertain and the long months apart from loved ones are taking a toll.

On Voices today we talk to one Christchurch household that's been rocked by the situation

A warning: this item contains references to suicide.

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If it is an emergency and you feel like you or someone else is at risk, call 11


3:45 The Panel with Chris Gallavin and Ali Jones