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Afternoons with Jesse Mulligan for Thursday 20 August 2020

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1:00  Covid 19 MOH update 

1:17 Is NZ going through a "brain gain"? 

The Spinoff's Alex Braae has looked at the return of expat New Zealanders back here as the COVID pandemic rages on in other countries. 

The early data shows that tens of thousands have come back, but its still early to say how this will impact the country in coming years. Alex talks to Jesse about what he has uncovered. 

Travellers with face masks at Auckland Airport international arrivals during the Covid-19 coronavirus outbreak on 20/3/2020.

Photo: RNZ / Liu Chen

1:27 Slow Fish movement starts in Wellington 

Two Wellington restaurants have teamed up to start a "slow fish" movement, encouraging diners to consider where their fish has come from and it its part of a sustainable catch programme. 

Chef Max Gordy of Hillside Kitchen talks to Jesse about getting involved with the international campaign and what the message he wants to spread to diners. 

Fresh fish in the market

Photo: 123RF

1:35 How to make a homemade mask 

Jesse speaks to Otago Museum exhibitions and creative services officer Prudence Jopson, who has been busy making masks for her colleagues at the museum. 

The Ministry of Health has recommended that Aucklanders wear a face covering when they're out in public, and the rest of the country is advised to wear one when physical distancing isn't possible. 

You can find out how to make your own mask, like Prudence, here

Otago Museum exhibitions and creative services officer Prudence Jopson and her masks crafted from recycled merchandise.

Otago Museum exhibitions and creative services officer Prudence Jopson and her masks crafted from recycled merchandise. Photo: Supplied


1:45 Great album: Joni Mitchell HEJIRA


2:10 Brad Warrington's music picks

Brad Warrington says this weeks new music is all about love. He reviews new albums Dua Lipa - Club Future Nostalgia - The Remix Album; NAS - Kings Disease and Romare - Home. Also on his radar are a couple of music documentaries David Foster - Off The Record - Netflix and Shaggy -  The Story of "It wasn't me" - Youtube. 

2:20 Recipe request: Lavender's Green Preserved Lemons.

Eateries all over the country have their special recipes. We've asked you what recipe you would like from your favourite cafe - and on your behalf we've invited them onto the show to share their secret. Today we're showcasing Lavender's Green Preserved Lemons.

Lavender's Green Preserved Lemons

Lavender's Green Preserved Lemons Photo: Lavender's Green

2:25 Crimes NZ: The Napier Siege

The Napier siege was a tense three-day stand-off that led to the fatal shooting of Constable Len Snee, in May 2009. Constable Snee was the 29th police officer killed in the line of duty in New Zealand.   The man barricaded in his house, who eventually took his own life, was Jan Molenaar.  Hawke's Bay Today senior reporter Doug Laing covered the entire event and joins Jesse to remember the tense stand-off..

A Defence Force LAV (light armoured vehicle) heads up Chaucer Road during the Napier Siege.

A Defence Force LAV (light armoured vehicle) heads up Chaucer Road during the Napier Siege. Photo: STUFF

This story was produced using archival audio from Ngā Taonga Sound and Vision.

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Photo: Nga Taonga Sound & Vision


3:10 Link 3: Reverse reverb​

Doot Doot / Firestarter / Holy Holy (Spiders version) 

3:15 can we learn to live with Covid?

Last week we faced the reality that Covid was in our community and as the government quickly moved to put the country in lockdown a number of the team of five million began questioning the pandemic strategy of elimination. Senior writer for the NZ Herald Simon Wilson has been watching the debate unfold.

COVID-19, Coronavirus, group of viruses that cause diseases in mammals and birds. In humans, the virus causes respiratory infections. 3D illustration.


3:25 The History of NZ's Constitutional Crises

Earlier this week, NZ avoided a constitutional crisis. There was a possibility that NZ First could withdraw confidence in the Government if the election date was not moved. The election was moved and any crisis avoided. Dr Grant Morris from the Victoria University of Wellington says this is relatively minor compared to three other constitutional crises in NZ's history.

 Governor George Grey

Governor George Grey Photo: National Library

3:45 The Panel with Chamanthie Sinhalage-Fonseka ​and Scott Campbell


Music played in this show


Great album: Joni Mitchell HEJIRA

Black Crow
Blue Motel Room

Music Critic: Brad Warrington

Celeste - One Love - Bob Marley Rework

Cleo Sol - When I'm in your arms