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Afternoons with Jesse Mulligan for Wednesday 8 July 2020

1:10 National Board to discuss Hamish Walker's leak of Covid-19 details

The National Party board is meeting from midday today to decide on the future of National MP Hamish Walker, who passed Covid-19 patients' details on to media.

Mr Walker was given the information by former National Party president Michelle Boag who has since resigned from her campaign and electorate roles for Auckland Central MP and National deputy leader Nikki Kaye, and from her role as acting chief executive of the Auckland Rescue Helicopter Trust. 

Jesse speaks to public relations consultant and former National government press secretary Ben Thomas.

1:17 Melbourne prepares for a six-week lockdown 

Melbourne is going back into lockdown for six weeks as Covid-19 cases in the city surge. 

Residents will not be able to leave their homes for any reason other than work, food, exercise or medical care.

Jesse speaks to Sophie Boot, a Kiwi living in Melbourne.

Police pull vehicles aside at a checkpoint in the locked-down suburb of Broadmeadows in Melbourne on July 2, 2020.

Photo: AFP

1:27 Making paper from stone

A New Zealand company is producing paper made from stone, that can be made into materials like stickers, boxes and printing paper.

To find out more about how it's made Jesse speaks to Alan Good from Rockstock.

Paper machine

Paper machine Photo: Rockstock

 Logo of Nga Taonga Sound & Vision

Photo: Ngā Taonga Sound & Vision

1:37 Ngā Taonga Sound Archives – a sound history of Rotorua tourism

From the days of the horse and coach to peppy 1980s radio jingles, today we will hear archived sound recordings about the tourism heartland of Roto-Vegas, with Sarah Johnston from Ngā Taonga Sound & Vision.


1:55 Afternoons Quiz Robert Kelly

Robert Kelly

Robert Kelly Photo: John Duke


2.12 Podcast Picks

Ellie Jay reviews Dr DeathOverheard at National GeographicThe Disappearing Spoon and Exposure with John Kennedy

2:20 Recipe Request: Capers Cafe Rotorua - Lemon tart.

Eateries all over the country have their special recipes. We've asked you what recipe you would like from your favourite cafe - and on your behalf we've invited them onto the show to share their secret. Today we're showcasing Capers Cafe in Rotorua and their scrumptious Lemon Tart.

Lemon Tart from Capers Cafe Rotorua

Lemon Tart from Capers Cafe Rotorua Photo: Capers Cafe Rotorua

2:25 Bookmarks with Anjum Rahman

Our guest today for Bookmarks is Anjum Rahman, who's a founding member of the Islamic Women's Council of New Zealand.

Anjum is also the project lead for the Inclusive Aotearoa Collective Tāhono.

Last year, she was made a Member of the New Zealand Order of Merit for her services to ethnic communities and women. 

Anjum Rahman, Assistant  Co-ordinator of the Islamic Women's Council

Photo: RNZ / Luke McPake

Anjum's picks:


 Mississippi Masala
 Black Panther


Kaun Kehta Hai by Jagjit and Chitra Singh

Afreen Afreen by Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan

Balagal Ula Be Kamalehi by the Sabri Brothers


Why I'm no longer talking to white people about race by Reni Eddo-Lodge

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams

3:10 The link between psychedelic drugs and social connection    

Connection is everything says psychiatrist and psychedelic researcher Dr Julie Holland. Something happens in our brains when we feel disconnected and medications like antidepressants can only do so much. Dr Holland looks at the social life of the brain and how psychedelic drugs, including LSD, and MDMA may help people reconnect. Her book is called Good Chemistry: The Science of Connection, from Soul to Psychedelics.

MDMA pills distributed by drug dealer seized by legal authority.

MDMA pills distributed by drug dealer seized by legal authority. Photo: 123RF

3:35 Stories from Our Changing World. Voices from Antarctica 7: What the ice is saying part B

The world's largest ice shelf appears to be a large expanse of unbroken white snow. But there are enormous crevasses lurking beneath that façade, and the job of Daniel Price is to find the crevasses and then help blow them up. The idea is to make a safe route for the vehicles that are towing equipment to a remote field camp, where scientists are studying the ice shelf and the sea below.

Hidden crevasses are an ever-present danger in Antarctica.

Hidden crevasses are an ever-present danger in Antarctica. Photo: CC BY 2.0 NASA Goddard/ Kelly Brunt

3:45 The Panel with Catherine Robertson and Phil O'Reilly