This Saturday Morning: Kim talks to Professor Nazneen Rahman, who mixes her work as a geneticist finding mutations that cause cancer with a burgeoning career as a singer-songwriter; the curator of a major new House of Dior retrospective at the National Gallery of Victoria in Melbourne, Katie Somerville, chats about her almost four-year labour of love; documentary maker Matt Trynauer discusses the David vs Goliath battle at the heart of his new work Citizen Jane; theatre impresario Shane Bosher on why he's nipped back to New Zealand from his new home in Sydney to take on two major new works; business maven Joan Withers looks back on her many years in New Zealand boardrooms - and asks why there aren't more women alongside her; dramatic soprano Kathryn Harries talks about her new job heading up The Kiri Programme for young operatic talent, and New York-based writer Emma Ng explains what it is like growing up as a Chinese-New Zealander.




8.09 Nazneen Rahman - The singing geneticist

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Nazneen Rahman is professor of human genetics at the Institute of Cancer Research, London, and head of cancer genetics at the Royal Marsden Hospital. Her work focuses on identifying gene mutations that predispose some people to getting cancer. She is also a singer-songwriter and has just released her second album Questions no Answers. She talks to Kim about her work, her unusual career combination and the difficulty of answering the question "what do you do?"


9.05 Katie Somerville - Delightful Dior 

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Katie Somerville is the Senior Fashion and Textiles Curator at the National Gallery of Victoria, and has spent the last three years pulling together the stunning House of Dior exhibition that opens at the NGV in August.  Her job has been to source the garments, collating their fascinating stories, and understanding the unique history behind each piece - a task that has required frequent trips abroad and late night calls to Paris. She has been in a fashion and textiles curatorial role with the NGV since 1995.  





The House of Dior: Seventy Years of Haute Couture 



9.40 Matt Tyrnauer - Citizen Jane 

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Matt Tyrnauer is a US director and regular contributor to Vanity Fair. His film, Valentino: The Last Emperor was short-listed for Best Documentary Feature Academy Award.  His documentary, Citizen Jane: Battle for the City, tells the story of an epic struggle in the early 1960s, when activist Jane Jacobs took on powerful developer Robert Moses over the fate of New York city.  Moses knocked down neighbourhoods to build high-rises and motorways, while Jacobs led a grass-roots campaign to thwart his plan to plough an expressway across town, right through Lower Manhattan. Citizen Jane is screening at the NZ International Film Festival.

10.05 Shane Bosher - A Streetcar Named Desire 

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Named as an Aucklander of the Year in 2005 by Metro magazine, and four-time Director of the Year by The New Zealand Listener, Shane Bosher is one of New Zealand's most prolific theatre makers. During his 13-year tenure as artistic director of Silo Theatre his  works included ambitious productions including Angels in America and Holding the Man.  Bosher, who is now based in Sydney, has returned to Auckland to direct A Streetcar Named Desire for Silo Theatre's 20th milestone year.  He'll also bring his award-winning production of Cock to the Herald Theatre. Bosher's 2015 Sydney production of Cock was nominated for four Sydney Theatre Awards including  Best Production, Best Direction, Best Actress and Best Lighting Design. The production won the 2015 Mardi Gras Festival Award for Best Arts Event.


10.30 Joan Withers -  A Woman's Place  

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Joan is the Chair of Mercury NZ and The Warehouse Group, and a director of ANZ New Zealand. She is a former Chair of Auckland International Airport and TVNZ, and a former director of Meridian Energy, Feltex Carpets, Ceramco Corporation and Tourism Holdings. She is a trustee of the Louise Perkins Foundation, which provides support to breast cancer sufferers. She is a University of Auckland Distinguished Alumni and won the CAANZ Media Excellence Award in 2009 and the New Zealand Shareholders Beacon Award in 2014. Joan will talk to Kim about her new book, A Woman's Place, which looks back on her extensive business career and weighs in on the issue of how to get more women into the top tiers of management. 

11.05 Kathryn Harries - The Kiri Programme 

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Leading dramatic soprano Kathryn Harries has recently announced she is stepping down at the end of the year as director of the National Opera Studio in London after nearly a decade in the role. Harries says she was going to be a pharmacist like her dad, but "mercifully, I decided on a career in music and with that single decision I saved countless lives". She fell in love with New Zealand during a visit in 1989, was here as a judge for the Lexus Song Quest in 2014, and has been back again as director of The Kiri Programme, in its first year of nurturing young singers. 


11.40 Emma Ng - Old Asian, New Asian 

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Emma Ng is a writer and curator from Auckland. She lived in Wellington for seven years, studying at Victoria University before becoming the 2013 Blumhardt Curatorial Intern at the Dowse Art Museum. Between 2014 and 2016, she was the Curator and Manager at Enjoy Public Art Gallery, where she oversaw a programme of contemporary art exhibitions, publications, and events. Emma has written for publications such as Art New Zealand, ArtAsiaPacific and The Pantograph Punch and has recently had her first book published Old Asian, New Asian, about growing up as a Chinese New Zealander. She is currently based in New York City, where she has just graduated with a master's degree in design research and criticism from the School of Visual Arts.



Books mentioned in this episode:

A Woman's Place 

By Joan Withers 

ISBN 9780143770596

Penguin NZ 


Old Asian, New Asian

Emma Ng

ISBN: 9780947518509

Bridget Williams Books 


Music played in this episode:

Artist: Nazneen Rahman
Song: "Everything Must Change" 
Composer: Nazneen Rahman 
Album: Answers No Questions 
Label: self released 
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Artist: Nazneen Rahman
Song: "Answers No Questions"
Composer: Nazneen Rahman 
Album: Answers No Questions
Label: self released 
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Artist: Kathryn Harries 
Song: The aria "Unspoken Thoughts" from Osud
Composer: Leos Janacek
Album: Osud by Leos Janacek
Label: Campos
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Artist: Nadezda Kniplova
Song: The aria "In a moment" from Janufa 
Composer: Leos Janacek
Album: Jenufa by Leos Janacek
Label: Supraphon
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