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Afternoons with Jesse Mulligan for Wednesday 24 February 2021


1.12 First Song:


1:17 Councils struggling around the country

Wellington Mayor Andy Foster  has announced an independent review of the city council's governance to " dispel the current atmosphere of rancour and partisanship". 

The council is not the only dysfunctional one right now as others face the same challenges and obstacles.

To look at the bigger picture of the issues that are plaguing local governments, Spin Off writer Alex Braae joins Jesse to talk about the pressure the councils are under.

Wellington Mayor Andy Foster

Wellington Mayor Andy Foster Photo: RNZ /Dom Thomas

1:27 Champions of the Pacific launched today

Today is the first episode of new  RNZ series, Champions of the Pacific.

The shows will speak to athletes and influential members of the Pacific sports community and debate the issues facing Pacific sport.

Koro Vaka'uta joins Jesse to explain more about the show, where it will be broadcast and found online as well as what the first episode released today is about.

Koro Vakauta and Talei Anderson present a new weekly show, Champions of the Pacific

Koro Vakauta and Talei Anderson present a new weekly show, Champions of the Pacific Photo: supplied

1:37 Rhythm of the Night singer living a quiet life in NZ

The world wide hit, The Rhythm of the Night, is a song that still gets a lot of attention and airplay since it was released by Italian Eurodance group Corona in 1993.

Jenny B, the voice behind the hit, now lives in New Zealand and has a performance coming up this week.

She talks to Jesse about the famous hit and how she's come to be living on our shores.

Giovanna Bersola AKA Jenny B, who is known for featuring in the hit song 'Rhythm of the Night'.

Giovanna Bersola AKA Jenny B, who is known for featuring in the hit song 'Rhythm of the Night'. Photo: Supplied.

1:55 Afternoons Quiz Robert Kelly

RNZ producer and onetime bookseller Robert Kelly presents his weekly quiz.

Robert Kelly

Robert Kelly Photo: John Duke

2.12 Podcast Critic: Molly Jones

Today Molly gives her views on James Acaster's Perfect Sounds podcast and I Swear I Never.

2:25 Bookmarks: Libby Hakaraia

Today's Bookmarks guest is the talented Libby Hakaraia, a filmmaker, tumu whakarae* of Māoriland, and director of the Māoriland film festival in Ōtaki.

Libby Hakaraia

Libby Hakaraia Photo: Blue Bach Productions

3:10 Juan Enriquez on how technology blurs the lines of right and wrong

There's right and there's wrong, ask anyone and they'll probably tell you the lines are clearly drawn.  But ethics evolve over time and technology is accelerating that change says Juan Enriquez.  He's  a cofounder and investor  in companies on the cutting edge of biology and technology. He looks back at the ways our thinking about issues like slavery and gay marriage have evolved and the role technology plays in those shifts.  At a time when so many are polarized over their own versions of what is right, he suggests forgiveness and humility in his new book Right/Wrong: How Technology Transforms Our Ethics.

Juan Enriquez

Juan Enriquez Photo: By Thatcher Cook for PopTech - CC BY-SA 2.0,

3:35 Stories from Our Changing World. Mapping NZ's underground water

Much of New Zealand's freshwater flows underground, and a team from GNS Science is in the process of creating maps to show where it comes from and where it flows to. Uwe Morgenstern and Catherine Moore tell Alison Ballance that aging the water is a critical part of the project, with some aquifers containing ancient water that is hundreds of years old. Amber Aranui's mātauranga Māori perspective adds to a rich understanding of groundwater on the Heretaunga Plains.

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Photo: RNZ / Tom Kitchin

3:45 The Panel with Jo McCarroll and Ed Amon