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Afternoons with Jesse Mulligan for Tuesday 13 October 2020

Critter of the Week t-shirts

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1:12 First Song: Harper Finn – Dance Away These Days​

Kiwi singer songwriter Harper Finn has recently released his newest single Dance Away The Days, a song inspired by a quote from Irish novelist and poet Samuel Beckett “Dance first. Think later. It’s the natural order.” Today Harper joins Jesse in the Auckland studio for First Song.

Harper Finn

Harper Finn Photo: Taylor Mansfield

1:17 Shortage of vets could cause animal welfare crisis

Concerns have been raised that a lack of qualified veterinarians around the country will cause an animal welfare crisis and big stress for vets who're already working hard.

Julie South is with Vetstaff, a recruitment agency, and says there needs to be more exemptions made to allow overseas vets to fill the vacancies. She talks to Jesse about her concerns over the skill shortage.

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1:27 Researching refuges to protect myrtle trees from rust disease

Manaaki Whenua researchers have been looking at how to predict where myrtle trees can grow without being exposed to pathogens that cause the rust disease.

James McCarthy's been leading the project and he talks to Jesse about finding what they call, refugia, to grow the trees so they don't get the disease.

Myrtle rust, James McCarthy (R)

Myrtle rust, James McCarthy (R) Photo: Rowan Buxton and Peter de Lange

1:35 Asking for spare change, landing a job instead!

Rishi Sharma's a Domino's pizza franchise owner who spotted a man using a pizza box to ask for spare change from passers by near one of his stores.

Instead of giving him a few coins, he ended up giving him a job at one of his outlets. Rishi tells Jesse how he came to help Brian "Sooty" Wallace to get back on his feet.

Brian "Sooty" Wallace and Rishi Sharma

Brian "Sooty" Wallace and Rishi Sharma Photo: Supplied

1:45 RNZ's Classical Cupid is back!

Tomorrow RNZ Concert's Clarissa Dunn is in studio to play Classical Music Matchmaker! 

Our Classical Cupid will find classical music tailored specifically for you based on your dating profile.

Whether you're a 'sunsets and strings'  or a 'bold as brass' adventurous type, we'll make your classical music match. She joins Jesse today to explain what she's looking for.

Email your "dating bio" or details about what you're looking for to

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1:50 Ben Hurley - How to write a joke

Every week, Jesse, speaks to a wordsmith about their craft and how to write in a certain way. Today he speaks to stand up comedian Ben Hurley about how to write a joke and if it's different preparing for a live audience than a camera.

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2:10 Pip Adam - the importance of writing 

Pip Adam's been working on a brand new initiative which uses the medium of writing to expand your gallery and museum experience. The Curators of Wellington was originally set for Cupda Dupa before lockdown scuppered the plans. Pip will also talk about an online project, LGBTQI+ histories of Aotearoa New Zealand Kōrero takatāpui ki Aotearoa which can be found on Te Papa's website, and she'll share a bit about what's on this year at Verb Wellington. 

2:20 Music Feature: Jack White

For today's music feature, we're talking about Jack White, who's known for his work with The White Stripes, The Raconteurs and The Dead Weather.  

Music therapist Ruby Solly is a big fan of White and joins Jesse in the studio to talk about his work. 

Jack White

Jack White Photo: David James Swanson

3:10 Jonathan Silvertown​ - laughter is in our DNA

Laughter really is in our DNA. The question is why. Using old jokes and science, Edinburgh University Professor of Evolutionary Ecology Jonathan Silvertown  explores why laughter is our first langauge and what is certifiably funny and what isn't in his new book, The Comedy of Error: Why Evolution Made Us Laugh

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3:30 Stand and Deliver

Today, in the third of veteran broadcaster Ian Johnstone's reports about his travels in Africa, he takes us to South Africa again, to find out what life was like for black people in the 1970s , under apartheid. 

3:45 The Panel with Ruwani Perera and Mark Knoff-Thomas


Music played in this show


Title: Seven Nation Army

Artist: The White Stripes



Title: Dance Away These Days

Artist: Harper Finn



Title: Seven Nation Army

Artist: The White Stripes


Title: Ain't Superstitious

Artist: The Upholsterers


Title: The Big Three Killed My Baby

Artist: The White Stripes


Title: Grinnin' In Your Face

Artist: Son House


Title: Broken Boy Soldier

Artist: The Raconteurs


Title: Cut Like A Buffalo

Artist: The Dead Weather


Title: Portland Oregon

Artist: Loretta Lynn (with Jack White)


Title: Love Interruption

Artist: Jack White


3.30 Song: To Perth, Before the Border Closes

Artist: Julia Jacklin