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Afternoons with Jesse Mulligan for Monday 23 September 2019

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1:10 First song: Nat & Jono - Grocery Shopping​

Indie folk duo Nat & Jono have recently released their latest single Grocery Shopping and join us from our Christchurch studio to play it live for First Song.

Nat & Jono

Nat & Jono Photo: Supplied \ Nat & Jono


1:17 Apprenticeships could soon be same status as degrees 

Apprenticeships can take just as long, and be just as demanding, as a university degree but are seen - officially - as much lower on the qualification scale. 

Industry training organisations are trying to change that - making trade certificates the same status as a diploma or even a degree. 

Warwick Quinn is the chief executive of the Business and Construction Industry Training Organisation, he is here to tell us why it's important trades are considered the same level as other tertiary courses. 

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Photo: Supplied


1.27 Mental Health Awareness week - wellbeing

Mental Health Awareness Week begins today, and the theme this year is 'Explore your way to wellbeing'.

Health advocate and researcher Sir Mason Durie believes mental health is taonga that must be nurtured and protected, and he's developed a model of wellbeing called Te Whare Tapa Whā.

He joins us to explain what it is and how it can help in our lives.

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Photo: MHAW


1.34 Rodney Fisher from Goodshirt

Rodney Fisher from the legendary kiwi band Goodshirt introduces their second studio album Fiji Baby - this week's Great New Zealand Album.


1:45 Great NZ Album; Goodshirt - Fiji Baby

Goodshirt - Fiji Baby

Goodshirt - Fiji Baby Photo: Album Cover


2:10 Television Critic: Caitlin Cherry

Following the outrage of ardent rugby fans over Spark's streaming of the RWC this weekend and grumblings about exorbitant costs - Caitlin Cherry introduces us to the free on-line streaming service Kanopy. She says all you need to join is a library card!


2:20 Wrestling and history combine in new webseries

History is rarely anything to laugh at, but the makers of a new webseries hope to inject a little humour into early 1800s Aotearoa.

Colonial Combat follows Māori and Pākeha as they have their first interactions - around a wrestling ring. 

The first few episodes premiered on TVNZ On Demand for Te Wiki ō te Reo Māori and the rest are being released this week, we're joined now by creator Julian Arahanga.


2:30 Expert feature: blood-sucking insects and creepy-crawlies

It's getting warmer out there ... which means there could soon be an influx of white-tail spiders in your home, bed-bugs in your bedroom, fleas on your pets, and mosquitoes and sandflies pretty much everywhere else.

Phil Sirvid is an entymologist at Te Papa and joins us to talk about how to ward off mosquitoes, how to treat head-lice, what to do if you're bitten by a white-tail, and much more besides.


Mosquito Photo: RNZ


3:10 Does dangling the carrot work?

Incentives rule the world. Throughout history dangling carrots to motivate us to innovate or change behaviour has resulted in spectacular success and spectacular failure.

Economist Jason Murphy reveals the strings that shape our lives in his book, Incentivology, The Forces That Explain Tremendous Success and Spectacular Failure.

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Photo: twitter

3:35 Voices

Today on Voices - we meet a former refugee from Somalia who wants a racist restriction on African and Middle East refugees gone.  

We find out why he won't rest until it's changed.


3:45 The Pre-Panel Story of the Day and One Quick Question

4:05 The Panel with Alison Mau and Morgan Godfery