1:10 First song

1:15 Why we need to stop thinking of leaders as heroes

Great leaders are a rarity. They're lauded as heroes, inspiring their followers in work, business and life. 

Few bosses fit this description, though many think they do. Statistics show 86 percent of leaders think they are role models, while 82 percent of employees rate their bosses fundamentally uninspiring. 

Dr Suze Wilson is a leadership expert, she says we need to stop idolising our leaders. She's giving a keynote address tomorrow on the subject, and she's here to explain why we need to rethink the role.

everyday, superman, superhero, super, superpower, ordinary, hero

Photo: 123rf

1:25 Hoarding as a business

You may have seen the television series "Hoarders" but you probably haven't seen hoarding like this...

Canadian Antique Collector Alexander Archbold has found a way to make someone else's hoarding a business.   

Earlier this year he purchased a farmhouse in rural Alberta, which was filled to the ceiling with the previous owners hoarded belongings.

His YouTube channel, Curiosity Incorporated, tracks his progress as he tries to make back the money he spent on the house from the sale of treasures he finds inside. Alexander tells us how successful he has been so far. 

Alexander Archbold, from the YouTube channel Curiosity Incorporated, bought the home of a hoarder. He hopes to make back the money on his investment by selling the various treasures he uncovers inside.

Alexander Archbold, from the YouTube channel Curiosity Incorporated, bought the home of a hoarder. He hopes to make back the money on his investment by selling the various treasures he uncovers inside. Photo: supplied

1:30 An organiser of the "secret Lesbian Summer Camps"

Last week we spoke to the director of a documentary theatre show about secret lesbian summer camps of the 1970's and 80's. That prompted Torfrida Wainwright to get in touch - she is one of the women who organised the camps and so we invited her on to tell us more

The peaceful protests at Greenham Common in the UK in the 1980's were an inspiration for NZ's lesbian summer camps

The peaceful protests at Greenham Common in the UK in the 1980's were an inspiration for NZ's lesbian summer camps Photo: [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MDP_Greenhamcommon1982] CC 3.0/ Rabbitspawphotos

1:40 German love poetry

Yesterday on the show Jesse made some disparaging comments suggesting that the German language was perhaps not the most beautiful sounding language in the world - particularly for things like love poetry.

Naturally a few German speakers felt he was quite wrong, so we invited a fluent German speaker onto the show to read us a love poem in German.

That person is Justin Lester - who's day job is Mayor of Wellington

Wellington Mayor, Justin Lester in his office at Wellington City Council.

Photo: RNZ / Rebekah Parsons-King

1:40 Great album

2:10 Book critic Elizabeth Heritage

Elizabeth Heritage is our book critic today, she's in our Wellington studio to talk about the work of some of New Zealand's disabled writers

2:20 The making of a great soundtrack with Laughton Kora

How much do you notice the sounds that go on around you in a film or theatre production? Well, you might listen more intently after Laughton Kora explains all about sound design for us today. He tells us what's so great about Star Wars and The Lion King, and talks about how he's approached the sound for the Auckland Theatre Company's production of Astroman.

Darth Vader at a TV awards show.

Darth Vader at a TV awards show. Photo: AFP

3:10 The science of exercise recovery

There's a whole industry built on easing the aches and pains that happen when you push your body in a workout. It's not just powders, nutrition bars and drinks, it's other things like ice baths and special compression tights.

Christie  Aschwanden is a science writer for the website FiveThirtyEight, she's also an athlete who found she could no longer go hard and go home. She writes about all the techniques she tried in her book Good to Go: What the Athlete in All of Us Can Learn From the Strange Science of Recovery.

No caption.

Photo: 123RF

3:30 Spoken Feature

3:45 The Pre-Panel Story of the Day and One Quick Question

4:05 The Panel with Ella Henry and Dean Hall