First Up - The Podcast, Thursday 20 November

On today's First Up pod: a new report from the Education Review Office finds removing cell phones from classrooms is improving learning and reducing bullying - we ask Labour's education spokesperson Willow-Jean Prime about that and the old rivalry is getting underway with the Ashes in Perth, we ask Aussie cricket writer Geoff Lemon what England should do. First Up - Voice of the Nathan.