First Up - The Podcast, Friday 16 May

On today's First Up pod with Melissa Chan-Green: South Africa's President calls whites claiming refugee status in the USA cowards, Nabil Ahmed Rufai has his report from Africa; we're in Basel Switzerland for the 69th edition of the Eurovision Song contest and we talk with an educator about the implications of AI in the classroom ..and ask you - how often is it used in your everyday life? First Up - Voice of the Nathan!