First Up - The Podcast, Tuesday 22 November

On today's First Up pod - why is Mangawhai in Northland is the new hot spot and the strain on infrastructure; we ask National's deputy leader Nicola Willis why her party's so opposed to 16 year olds having the vote, after the Supreme Court ruled that excluding them amounts to unjustified discrimination and we speak with one of the unsung heroes of the country's Covid response - the wastewater testers. First Up - Voice of the Nathan!