First Up - The Podcast, Thursday 6 October

On today's First Up pod - Nick Truebridge in for Nathan this week: UK Prime Minister Liz Truss pledges to get the country through its current economic turmoil; our deputy prime minister Grant Robertson discusses the better-than-expected state of the government's books; a major new study has raised serious questions about the safety of our national game - we hear from the partner of former All Black Carl Hayman about his struggles living with dementia at the age of just 42 First Up - Voice of the Nathan!