First Up - The Podcast, Tuesday 14 June

On today's First Up pod - we discuss yesterday's Cabinet reshuffle with National's deputy leader Nicola Willis, and ask if her party's new gang policies are actually any good; we catch up with two of the young bucks named in the All Blacks squad yesterday; and Kiwisaver provider Simplicity has asked Fletcher Building for an explanation over the Gib board debacle. First Up - Voice of the Nathan!