Dr Arif Saeid recipient of New Year's Honour

Dr Arif Saeid arrived in New Zealand 25 years ago, and since then has been working with, and advocating for the rights of refugees and asylum seekers. Dr Saeid has also been President of the Refugee Council for more than 10 years. Dr Saeid has been appointed an Officer of the New Zealand Order of Merit for his work refugees and youth. He joins Anna to discuss what it's like for refugees in New Zealand today.