18 Apr 2015

Chris Pugsley: the scale of Gallipoli

From Saturday Morning, 9:06 am on 18 April 2015

Percival Fenwick Photograph by Norm Heke Te Papa
Weta Workshop's Marly Doyle applies the finishing touches to the larger than life figure of Percival Fenwick. Photo: Norm Heke, Te Papa.

Lieutenant Colonel (Retired) Christopher Pugsley, ONZM, is an historian, whose 1995 book Te Hokowhitu A Tu: The Maori Pioneer Battalion in the First World War (Libro International) has just been republished.

He is the lead advisor for the exhibition, Gallipoli: the Scale of Our War, now open at Te Papa Tongarewa.

He joins Kim Hill to discuss the desperate position the New Zealand troops found themselves in at Gallipoli, with a focus on respected leader Lieutenant-Colonel William G Malone, and the contrast between his professional and private personalities.

N.B. During the interview, Chris and Kim discussed the book No Better Death: The Great War Diaries and Letters of William G Malone, edited by John Crawford with Peter Cooke (Exisle), and the New Zealand First World War Trail app.

Spencer Westmacott Photo by Norm Heke Te Papa
Weta Workshop's Jacqueline Makkee applies the finishing touches to the larger than life life of Spencer Westmacott. Photo: Norm Heke, Te Papa.