9 Oct 2025

Group Chat: Does it matter if Taylor Swift's album isn't good?

From Afternoons, 2:10 pm on 9 October 2025
(FILES) US singer Taylor Swift performs on stage during "The Eras Tour" at the Hard Rock stadium in Miami Gardens, Florida, October 18, 2024. - Beyonce's groundbreaking "Cowboy Carter" album nabbed her a leading 11 nods for this season's Grammy Awards, the music industry's most coveted prizes, where she will face off against Taylor Swift (six nominations) and a new class of pop hitmakers. (Photo by CHANDAN KHANNA / AFP)

Taylor Swift performs on stage during "The Eras Tour" at the Hard Rock stadium in Miami Gardens, Florida, October 18, 2024. Photo: CHANDAN KHANNA

Right, it's time now for Group Chat, our chance to talk about all the conversations filling up your chats, the topics discussed at the school gate or in the office kitchen.

Today Jesse is joined by Kate Rodger and Afternoons Senior Producer Olivia Wilson, and they're chatting about Taylor Swift's new album and the mixed reviews and Jimmy Fallon's decision to "not be political".