Afternoons for Thursday 23 October 2025

1:15 How do you negotiate a deal when you're at a stalemate?

Today's so called "mega strike" has seen tens of thousands of teachers, nurses, doctors and other workers walk off the job today. 

100 thousand people were expected to take to the streets today; the wild weather will have put a dent in those numbers, but the strike action will still be felt by many of us. 

Today's action is the latest in a series of strikes this year, as it seems pay negotiations have hit an impasse. 

And that got us thinking, what can be done in situations where there is a stalemate and indeed what are some tips for negotiating in general?

Andrew Patterson is a Professional Teaching Fellow in the Department of Management and International Business at the University of Auckland.

He chats to Jesse.

1:25 Why cook Dazza Jarrett says he is "more than pies"

You might know him best as a Warriors jersey-wearing pie baker, but chef Darren Jarrett reveals he's much more than that in his soon-to-be-released cookbook.

The collection of some of his favourite recipes is called "Dazza's Cooked... More Than Pies". He chats to Jesse.

1:35 Grammy winning music producer Joel Little on keeping local music alive

Big Fan - the recording studio and live music venue founded by Grammy winning music producer Joel Little - is turning three!

To mark the occasion, the not-for-profit initiative is launching a fundraiser, aiming to raise $50,000 to help ensure there are free programmes for up-and-coming local musicians in 2026

Joel, who’s worked with the likes of Taylor Swift and Lorde, started Big Fan with his wife Gemma as a way to give back to New Zealand’s music community.
 

1:45 Great album: Guy Sebastian!

Thursday plus link three equals someone winning a great album on vinyl. 
Today we've got Guy Sebastian's latest record '100 times around the sun' to give away. 
Jesse spoke to Guy when this album was released a few months ago and he was really excited to be sharing something so personal, and to be back focusing on music rather than TV talent shows. 
This record debuted at number two in the Australian charts and number 37 here in Aotearoa. 
 

2:10 Group Chat: We need to talk about Prince Andrew and brand Windsor

Time now to talk through the content filling up your group chats, the conversation fodder distracting you from the task at hand.

Culture 101 host Perlina Lau and Afternoons Senior Producer Olivia Wilson talk to Jesse about how you maintain a family brand, why you can't fire your siblings and why actors keep getting plastic surgery. 

2:30 A-Z of Aotearoa: K for Kauri

It's time to return to the A-Z of Aotearoa. 

We've been making our way through the alphabet to look back at the iconic people and cultural touchstones that form New Zealand. 

We've arrived at 'K' today, so we're looking at the rich history of Kauri - the trees, the timber, the gum.  

Jesse speaks to Arty Bergman from Northland Kauri Timber about what it's like to work with Kauri in 2025, and Pete Panhuis, one of the country's foremost experts on Kauri.

3:15 Your Money with Mary Holm 

Righto. let's talk money now, friend of the show and financial whizz Mary Holm is here to share her ten top tips and tricks.

3:35 The beach risks dog owners need to be aware of

Going for a walk on the beach might feel like a distant dream looking out at the weather today, but summer is coming and in fact for some parts of New Zealand, is already here.

Warmer weather means bluebottle jellyfish are hitting our shores earlier than usual, and that's got Vets raising the alarm because jelly fish and dogs are not a happy union.

Former Vet Nurse Kerri Murray chats to Jesse.

3:45 The pre-Panel 

Wallace Chapman previews tonight's instalment of The Panel.