Afternoons for Thursday 2 October 2025

1:15 "Staunch beyond words" Nicola Toki shares stories of Dr Jane Goodall

"Warm, kind, inspirational and staunch beyond words" that's how our first guest has described Dr Jane Goodall, who has died aged 91.

Jane Goodall was a pioneer in her field, both as a female scientist in the 1960s and for her work studying the behaviour of primates. 

She was a huge inspiration to friend of the show, Forest and Bird Chief Executive Nicola Toki, who joins Jesse to talk about the legacy Dr Goodall leaves. 

1:25 How can you bring joy into your everyday life?

My next guest has appointed herself a "scholar of joy".

Jen Sievers is a renowned Auckland-based artist who has decided to dive head-first into the literary world. 

The book is 'The Art of Joy: A Creative Guide to Living a Colourful, Juicy Life'. She chats to Jesse.

1:35 The $290 million NZ building tasked with protecting taonga.

Wellington's new archive facility is pipped to out-perform the Smithsonian in protecting our taonga, at least that's what the experts say.

The 290-million-dollar facility will be known as 'Te Rua: Archives New Zealand' and is designed to meet New Zealand's UNESCO obligations for taonga protection. 

It's been developed by Dexus, and Phill Stanley is their portfolio manager for New Zealand, he chats to Jesse.

1:45 Great album: Big Thief 'Double Infinity'

We have got a great album to give away to today's lucky Link Three winner. 
American Indie folk band, Big Thief has just released its latest album ... the first as a trio after one of the band members left last year .. it's called Double Infinity and is already getting rave reviews. 

2:10 Relationships: How to have a hard conversation

Friendships, workmates, flatmates or love - whatever the status -relationships are tricky. 
Navigating the highs and the lows can be challenging, especially when it involves hard conversations. 

That's why we've got a new segment every fortnight that focuses on relationships, here to help guide us through a tough chat is Professor Kirsty Ross from Massey University's School of Psychology.

2:30 NZ Sporting History with Lorraine Moller

Marathon runner Lorraine Moller will forever be in the history books, not just for her amazing talent, but because she was competing when women's sport was going through massive, and rapid change. 

Lorraine took part in the first ever Women's Olympic Marathon at the 1984 LA Olympics, coming fifth, and over her twenty-year career she ended up running marathons in four Olympics - four! - winning bronze at the 1992 Barcelona Olympics. 

Lorraine joins Jesse to share her experience and insights.

3:15 Solving the World's Problems: Mayoral Desktastrophe!

Dave Armstrong joins Jesse to solve some of the world's problems, and today he is looking at the Wellington Mayoral document dump disaster, the new earthquake rules and the return of the gibbons to Wellington Zoo.

3:20 History with Dr Grant Morris

Does what's happened in the past, help explain the present?

That's a question Dr Grant Morris has been contemplating and is keen to explore with us today using US President Donald Trump and his adoration for former US President Andrew Jackson as an example. 

3:35 BBC Witness: The Secretary who made millions from her mistakes
Today's BBC Witness History has a cracking yarn spotlighting the secretary who made millions from her typos. 

In the1950s, Bette Graham was struggling to cope with her new electric typewriter and was making too many mistakes .. so in her kitchen at home, she cooked up the world's first correcting fluid. 

The BBC's Vicky Farncombe has the details. 

3:45 The pre-Panel 

Emile Donovan previews tonight's instalment of The Panel.