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Afternoons with Jesse Mulligan for Friday 27 July 2018

1:10 First song

1:15 Robots and Racism: Are Robots too white? 

A new study from Canterbury University and Monash University academics shows humans have the same racial biases towards robots as they do towards other humans.

One of the study's authors, Dr Christoph Bartneck, joins us to talk about the evidence, the implications, and what we should be doing about it.

A Ping Pong Playing Robot at Tokyo International Robot Exhibition, Nov 2009

A Ping Pong Playing Robot at Tokyo International Robot Exhibition, Nov 2009 Photo: By Humanrobo CC BY-SA 3.0

1:25 Update on Lower Hutt Fire

RNZ reporter Emma Hatton reports from the scene of a massive blaze in Gracefield.

1.30 Reviving Australia's indigenous languages

The indigenous Australians have more than 250 distinct languages - some of them with few speakers and next to no written records.

But Karina Lester from First Languages Australia wants to bring them back, one at a time - and her organisation is starting off in the country's schools.

Karina Lester sits on the board of First Languages Australia

Karina Lester sits on the board of First Languages Australia Photo: Supplied

1:40 Great album

2:10 Education through entertainment - Riddle + Squizz, where kids ask the darndest things

Kids have a knack for coming up with great questions: how is electricity created? Why are balloons so floaty? Why can't you touch a rainbow?

So Hana Miller, the creative director of Wellington visual production company RDYSTDY, decided to bring those questions and answers to life for the small screen with a new online kiwi kids' show called Riddle + Squizz.

To find out more about the free workshops for curious kids click here

2:20 Film Review with Richard Swainson

Richard reviews Mamma Mia! Here We Go Again and Occupation

2:20 NZ Live: The Beths

We've had to reschedule Julia Deans as she has a nasty cold, so we're replaying one of Jesse's favourite NZ Live sessions, with The Beths, from November of last year

The Beths in the RNZ Auckland studio before their NZ Live session today. 3 November 2017.

Photo: RNZ / Claire Eastham-Farrelly

3:10 Food: using porcini mushroom powder

Jacqui Dixon from Italian food store Sabato shares her recipe for scalloped potatoes made with porcini mushroom powder and capers.

Porcini Scalloped Potatoes

Porcini Scalloped Potatoes Photo: supplied

3:20 Talk the Walk: the Banks Track

Tricia Hewlett tells us about the 3 day Banks Track walk in Banks Peninsula, which is a private walking track, so costs upwards of 200 dollars to do.  The 29 kilometre walk crosses farmland, runs alongside the Flea Bay marine reserve and through Hinewai Reserve, with incredible coastal views, native bush, waterfalls and beaches.

3:25 Critter of the Week

It’s all in the name with this week’s critter – the ‘NZ fish-guts plant’; because as those that have ever come across it exclaim – “you smell it before you see it!”.

DOC’s Threatened Species Ambassador, Nicola Toki explains that, even with a nose-peg, it is quite a difficult task to give a helping hand to this endangered plant.

Fish guts Plant

Fish guts Plant Photo: CC BY-NC 2.0 Jon Sullivan

3:45 The Pre-Panel Story of the Day and One Quick Question

4:05 The Panel with Jennie Moreton and Andrew Clay


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Photo: RNZ/Liminal/DoC


NZ is full of amazing native creatures, and many of them are not cute and pretty! We are celebrating those less loved critters with some limited edition t-shirts illustrated by the amazing @giselledraws.

She was assisted by science advisor Mike Dickison and DoC's Threatened Species Ambassador, Nicola Toki.

To order a t-shirt please click here.


We have set aside 5 dollars from every t-shirt sale and plan to donate it to a community volunteer group that is working on local habitat protection or critter conservation. To apply please email us details of what your group does and what you would do with the money.

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- The producers of the show will select the group or groups, their decision is final and no correspondence will be entered in to

- We may request additional or supporting information

- You must also disclose if any of your members are employed by RNZ or DoC