8 May 2025

New Caledonia’s political talks: no outcome after three days of 'conclave'

9:36 am on 8 May 2025
Customary welcome at the Gouaro tribe on the Deva estate in Bourail, where “conclave” discussions between French Overseas Minister Manuel Valls, independentists and non-independents on the institutional future of New Caledonia will take place over several days.
Pictured: Minister for Overseas France Manuel Valls, former congress president Roch Wamytan, RDO president and founder Aloisio Sako
New Caledonia, Bourail, May 5, 2025. Photography by Delphine Mayeur / Hans Lucas.
Coutumes d’accueil a la tribu de Gouaro sur le domaine de Deva a Bourail, ou vont se derouler durant plusieurs jours des discussions en “conclave“ entre le Ministre des Outre-mer Manuel Valls, les independantistes et les non independantistes, sur l’avenir institutionnel de la Nouvelle-Caledonie.
En photo : le Ministre des Outre-mer Manuel Valls, l’ancien president du congres Roch Wamytan, le president et fondateur du RDO Aloisio Sako
Nouvelle-Caledonie, Bourail, 5 mai 2025. Photographie par Delphine Mayeur / Hans Lucas. (Photo by Delphine...

Customary welcome at the Gouaro tribe on the Deva estate in Bourail, where “conclave” discussions between French Overseas Minister Manuel Valls, left, independentists and non-independents on the institutional future of New Caledonia will take place over several days. Photo: Delphine Mayeur / Hans Lucas / AFP

After three solid days of talks in retreat mode, New Caledonia's political parties have yet to reach an agreement on the French Pacific territory's future status.

The talks, held with French Minister for Overseas Manuel Valls and French Prime Minister's special advisor Eric Thiers, have since Monday moved from Nouméa to a seaside resort in Bourail - West coast of the main island, about 200 kilometres away from the capital - in what has been labelled a "conclave", a direct reference to this week's meeting of Catholic cardinals in Rome.

However, the Bourail conclave is yet to produce any kind of white smoke, and no one, as yet, claims "Habemus Pactum" to say that an agreement has been reached.

Under heavy security, representatives of both pro-France and pro-independence parties are being kept in isolation and are supposed to stay there until a compromise is found to define New Caledonia's political future, and an agreement that would later serve as the basis for a pact designed to replace the Nouméa Accord that was signed in 1998.

The talks were supposed to conclude on Wednesday, but it has been confirmed that the discussions were going to last longer, at least one more day, probably well into the night.

Valls was initially scheduled to fly back to Paris on Thursday, but it has also been confirmed that he will stay longer.

Almost one year after civil unrest broke out in New Caledonia on 13 May 2024, leaving 14 dead and causing €2.2 billion in damages, the talks involve pro-France Les Loyalistes, Le Rassemblement, Calédonie Ensemble and pro-independence FLNKS (Kanak and Socialist National Liberation Front), UNI-PALIKA (Kanak Liberation Party).

Éveil Océanien, a Wallisian-based party, defends a "neither pro, nor against independence" line, what it calls a "third way".

The talks, over the past few days, have been described as "tense but respectful", with some interruptions at times.

The most sensitive issues among the numerous topics covered by the talks on New Caledonia's future, are reported to be the question of New Caledonia's future status and its future relationship to France.

Other sensitive topics include New Caledonia's future citizenship and the transfer of remaining key powers (defence, law and order, currency, foreign affairs, justice) from Paris to Nouméa.

Valls, who is visiting New Caledonia for the third time since February 2025, said he would stay in New Caledonia "as long as necessary" for an inclusive and comprehensive agreement to be reached.

Earlier this week, Valls also likened the current situation as "walking on a tightrope above embers."

"The choice is between an agreement and chaos," he told local media.

On both sides of the discussion table, local parties have all stated earlier that bearing in mind their respective demands, they were "not ready to sign at all costs."

The most hard-line pro-independence views, from FLNKS, are demanding full sovereignty while on the pro-France side, the line is to consider that link as unquestionable, after three referendums were held there between 2018 and 2021.

Customary welcome at the Gouaro tribe on the Deva estate in Bourail, where “conclave” discussions between French Overseas Minister Manuel Valls, independentists and non-independents on the institutional future of New Caledonia will take place over several days.
Pictured: Manuel Valls takes part in the welcoming ceremony.
New Caledonia, Bourail, May 5, 2025. Photography by Delphine Mayeur / Hans Lucas.
Coutumes d’accueil a la tribu de Gouaro sur le domaine de Deva a Bourail, ou vont se derouler durant plusieurs jours des discussions en “conclave“ entre le Ministre des Outre-mer Manuel Valls, les independantistes et les non independantistes, sur l’avenir institutionnel de la Nouvelle-Caledonie.
En photo : Manuel Valls participe a la coutume d’accueil.
Nouvelle-Caledonie, Bourail, 5 mai 2025. Photographie par Delphine Mayeur / Hans Lucas. (Photo by Delphine Mayeur / Hans Lucas / Hans Lucas via AFP)

Manuel Valls takes part in the welcoming ceremony. Photo: Delphine Mayeur / Hans Lucas / AFP

Valls's approach was still trying to reconcile those two very antagonistic views, often described as "irreconcilable".

"But the thread is not broken. Only more time is required", local media quoted a close source as saying.

Last week, an earlier session of talks in Nouméa had to be interrupted due to severe frictions and disagreement from the pro-France side.

Speaking to public broadcaster NC la 1ère on Sunday, Rassemblement leader Virginie Ruffenach elaborated, saying "there had been profound elements of disagreements on a certain number of words uttered by the Minister (Valls)".

One of the controversial concepts, strongly opposed by the most radical pro-French parties, was a possible transfer of key powers from Paris to Nouméa, as part of a possible agreement.

"In what was advanced, the land of New Caledonia would no longer be a French land", Ruffenach stressed on Sunday, adding this was "unacceptable" to her camp.

She also said the two main pro-France parties were opposed to any notion of "independence-association".

"Neither Rassemblement, nor Les Loyalistes will sign for New Caledonia's independence, let this be very clear".

The pro-France camp is advocating for increased powers (including on tax matters) for each of the three provinces of New Caledonia, a solution sometimes regarded by critics as a form of partition of the French Pacific territory.

In a media release on Sunday, FLNKS "reaffirmed its...ultimate goal was Kanaky (New Caledonia's) accession to full sovereignty".

Series of fateful anniversaries

On the general public level, a feeling of high expectations, but also wariness, seems to prevail at the news that discussions were still inconclusive.

In 1988, the Matignon-Oudinot peace talks between pro-independence leader at the time, Jean-Marie Tjibaou and pro-France leader Jacques Lafleur, were also held, in their final stage, in Paris, behind closed doors, under the close supervision of French Prime Minister, Socialist Michel Rocard.

The present crucial talks also coincide with a series of fateful anniversaries in New Caledonia's recent history: on 5 May 1988, French special forces ended a hostage situation and intervened on Ouvéa Island in the Gossana grotto, where a group of hard-line pro-independent militants had kept a group of French gendarmes.

The human toll was heavy: 19 Kanak militants and 2 gendarmes were killed.

On 4 May 1989, one year after the Matignon-Oudinot peace accords were signed, Jean-Marie Tjibaou and his deputy Yeiwene Yeiwene were gunned down by hard-line pro-independence Kanak Djubelly Wea.

Valls attended most of these commemoration ceremonies, at the weekend.

On 5 May 1998, the Nouméa Accord, now aged 27, was signed between New Caledonia's parties and then French Prime Minister Lionel Jospin.

The Nouméa pact, which is often regarded as a de facto Constitution, was placing a particular stress on the notions of "re-balancing" economic wealth, a "common destiny" for all ethnic communities "living together" and a gradual transfer of powers from Paris to Nouméa.

The Accord also prescribed that if three self-determination referendums (initially scheduled between 2014 and 2018) had produced three rejections (in the form of "no"), then all political stakeholders were supposed to "meet and examine the situation thus generated".

The current talks aimed at arriving at a new document, which was destined to replace the ageing Nouméa Accord and bring New Caledonia closer to having its own Constitution.

Valls said he was determined to "finalise New Caledonia's decolonisation" process.

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