Ann Jacobs says prisoner parents need contact with their children

US inmate advocate Ann Jacobs believes children should visit their incarcerated parents and mothers should keep their babies with them inside. Jacobs is the director of the Prisoner Re-entry Institute, a job she took on after 20 years as the executive director of the Women's Prison Association in New York, She's visiting New Zealand and has met with justice and corrections officials, as well Corrections Minister Kelvin Davis. She talks about what works in terms of getting prisoners back on their feet upon release. She also shares her insights on the difference between men and women's needs when they're incarcerated.