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A shorter than usual Sunday Morning show this weekend.  Jim will be on air from 10am to midday after the RNZ Morning Report Election Special with Ingrid Hipkiss & Guyon Espiner.

10:10 Sir Bryan Williams: Rugby World Cup reaction 

Former All Black and coach of the Samoan national team, Sir Bryan Williams joins us with his reaction to events as they unfolded between New Zealand an Ireland in Paris. 

Tuifa’asisina Sir Bryan Williams

Tuifa’asisina Sir Bryan Williams Photo: Photosport

10:15 Natasha Frost: The Voice Referendum 

On Saturday, 14 October 2023, Australians will have their say in a referendum about whether to change the Constitution to recognise the First Peoples of Australia by establishing a body called the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice. 

Natasha Frost is the New York Times correspondent based in Melbourne. 

(FILES) In this photo taken on October 3, 2023, a woman handing out brochures walks past referendum promotional posters outside a voting centre in central Sydney. On October 14, 2023 almost 18 million Australians will decide whether to recognise Indigenous Australians in the constitution for the first time, and whether to create a permanent Indigenous consultative body. (Photo by DAVID GRAY / AFP) / TO GO WITH AFP STORY AUSTRALIA-INDIGENOUS-REFERENDUM-MISINFORMATION, BY JOSEPH OLBRYCHT PALMER


10:20 Liam Lawson: What I’m Listening to 

The Formula One series is nearly over for Liam Lawson. We catch up with all that’s been going on for him since we last spoke, and he shares a track currently playing in his headphones.  

LAWSON Liam (nzl), Scuderia AlphaTauri AT04, portrait during the 2023 Formula 1 Qatar Grand Prix, 17th round of the 2023 Formula One World Championship from October 6 to 8, 2023 on the Lusail International Circuit, in Doha, Qatar - Photo Xavi Bonilla / DPPI (Photo by Xavi Bonilla / Xavi Bonilla / DPPI via AFP)


10:45 Lucy Corry: Post Election Brunch

Celebrating, commiserating, or waiting in anticipation... If you stayed up late Saturday keeping up to date with the election coverage, you’ll need a good breakfast to recover. As a bonus, it might help you if you were up early watching the rugby too. 

Lucy Corry AKA The Kitchenmaid joins us. 

Dutch baby pancake with berries and Greek yoghurt

Photo: Lucy Corry / RNZ

11:05 Chris Tse: ‘It was a bit of a secret that I liked Celine Dion’ 

How does a poet laureate celebrate their birthday? If you’re Chris Tse, you mark the occasion with a gathering of fellow poets – and by writing a new poem about your love of Celine Dion. 

Chris Tse

Poet Laureate Chris Tse celebrates his birthday today.  Photo: Chris Tse

11:20 Jo McCarroll: Vege Patch From Scratch 

Jo McCarroll, Sunday Morning regular and NZ Gardener magazine editor has a new book out for anyone wanting to save a bit of money or to grow some fresh healthy food. Vege Patch from Scratch offers easy-to-follow steps for starting and sustaining your very own vegetable garden.  

Vege Patch from Scratch, Jo McCarroll book cover and author composite

Photo: Upstart Press

11:35 Gregor Paul: The All Blacks and the Rugby World Cup 

We look at the All Blacks’ performance in this World Cup with of New Zealand's most respected rugby writers and columnist for the NZ Herald, Gregor Paul. 

Will Jordan of New Zealand.

Will Jordan of New Zealand. Photo: PHOTOSPORT

11:50 Jonathon Coquet: do germs actually help build our immune systems? 

The hygiene hypothesis is the idea that kids must be exposed to germs to develop healthy immune systems. Unexpected results from a recent study suggest hygiene hypothesis might not be so clean cut though. 

Researchers compared laboratory mice with high infectious exposures from birth to ‘clean’ mice and found little evidence that the antibody response was altered in any meaningful way. The ‘dirty’ mice had the same, if not greater ability to develop allergic immune responses than the ‘clean’ mice. 

Jonathan Coquet, co-author of the study and Associate Professor at the Department of Microbiology, Tumor and Cell Biology at Karolinska Institutet in Sweden joins Jim Mora to discuss the study's results. 

sick kid with runny nose and fever heat lying on couch at home

Photo: 123rf