Neale Jones was Chief of Staff to Labour Leader Jacinda Ardern, and prior to that was Chief of Staff to Andrew Little. He is the director of public affairs firm Capital.
Tim Hurdle is a former National senior adviser, consultant and director of several companies.
Tim, Neale and Kathryn discuss recent events in politics including New Zealand's response to Israel attacks on Iran. Photo: RNZ / Marika Khabazi
