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It's a subject that many find uncomfortable, but is a necessity - how to handle the end of life.
Amid the grief and challenges of how to honour loved ones, comes the financial pressures - dying is expensive, with funerals estimated at an average of $10,000.
It was the subject of a Health Select Committee report in May - which said current processes and regulations are imposing high costs on the public and creating a barrier for those who want to do DIY funerals.
Joining Kathryn is Treza Gallogly, she's the chair of the End of Life Doula Alliance Aotearoa.
It's a relatively new organisation - but the work she and other doulas do certainly isn't.
She says the end of life process has become incredibly medicalised - but a growing number of Kiwis are opting to die peacefully at home.
Treza speaks to Kathryn during Dying Matters Week, with over 250 events across the motu this week, where people can learn about all aspects of end of life care. You can find more information here.
