Neale, Liam and Kathryn discuss Jacinda Ardern's resignation, what new Prime Minister Chris Hipkins and deputy PM Carmel Sepuloni will bring to the Labour leaderships this year, with the election date set for 14 October.
Neale Jones was Chief of Staff to Labour Leader Jacinda Ardern, and prior to that was Chief of Staff to Andrew Little. He is the director of public affairs firm Capital.
Liam Hehir is a Palmerston North lawyer, political commentator and a National Party member