Neale, Liam and Kathryn discuss the Government's gamble on Covid strategy, was it a politics driven decision?. Also the dilemmas over vaccine passports and slowness on supplementary testing. Does this give National room to gain ground?.
Neale Jones was Chief of Staff to Labour Leader Jacinda Ardern, and prior to that was Chief of Staff to Andrew Little. He is the director of Capital Government Relations.
Liam Hehir is a Palmerston North lawyer, political commentator and a National Party member.