Small local councils say the government-led three-waters reform underway could lead to their demise.
The Government is planning to create a handful of publicly funded water agencies to take over responsibility of drinking water, waste water and storm water.
All of the country's 67 councils have signed up to the initial stages of the plan, but can choose to opt out. Smaller councils say taking the assets and the work of maintaining them away - will also take away much of their assets - and purpose.
Dr Jason Smith, mayor of Kaipara District Council, Clutha District Council's mayor Bryan Cadogan, and Stuart Crosby - the president of LGNZ, discuss.