Allen Uren is a veteran volunteer in search and rescue based in Wanaka. Over nearly 20 years, he's been part of some of the most dramatic and horrific events in the wilderness. He's been outspoken about the trauma that rescuers are exposed to, and a vocal proponent of the need for psychological debriefing for rescuers. Allan's also an expert ice climber.
He tells Kathryn Ryan, both climbing and rescuing are a kind of primal urge.