The Prime Minister's downplaying the impact of a new tri-lateral security deal on New Zealand and its place in the region.
Australia, the United States and Britain have announced a the partnership, to pull together in the the face of increasing challenges in the Indo-Pacific, namely China.
Jacinda Ardern says she's not at all concerned by New Zealand's exclusion.
When announcing the alliance yesterday, Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison made a point of saying trans-Tasman relations were unchanged.
Former New Zealand defence minister Wayne Mapp spoke to Corin Dann.
