When South Africa won its first Rugby World Cup, the country has only just ended the apartheid system.
When the Springboks, cheered on by Nelson Mandela, won their second title in 2007, a teenage Siya Kolisi did not even have a television set.
Trevor Richards, a founding member of the protest group Halt All Racist Tours (HART) which formed in 1969 to oppose sporting contact with apartheid South Africa, speaks to Corin Dann.
