Australian Cardinal George Pell, a senior advisor to the Pope, is on bail awaiting sentencing after being found guilty of sexually abusing children. The 77-year-old will be sentenced in February on five counts of historic abuse that took place in Melbourne in the 1990s. And he'll be back in court early next year for another trial on similar charges for abuse that are alleged to have happened in Ballarat. He is the highest ranking Catholic to be convicted of sexual abuse. Because of the upcoming trial, all details of Pell's conviction this week have been suppressed in Australia. Pell's position as the financial controller of the Vatican made him the third most powerful person in the Vatican. But he's now been dismissed from the Pope's Council of Nine - his closest advisers. Susie Ferguson speaks to our correspondent in Rome, Sabina Castelfranco.