'This is serious' - Sir Don McKinnon on Trump, world order

Former Foreign Affairs Minister Sir Don McKinnon talks to Guyon Espiner about New Zealand’s place in international relations as a trade war looms between China and the US, and US President Donald Trump sides with Russian President Vladimir Putin in the face of US intelligence agency findings on the US election. Sir Don speaks bluntly about Trump: "This is serious... nothing more serious than his meeting with Putin. It was game, set and match to Putin. A US President so caught off base that he lost the round with a Russian President."