The general secretary of the Papua New Guinea Catholic Bishops Conference is taking Australia to task over its offshore detention centres and its attitude to climate change.
While Australia has plans to reconnect with the Pacific, Giorgio Licini says Australia's arrogance and its refusal to listen to its near neighbours will leave it isolated.
Don Wiseman spoke with Fr Licini who elaborated on his comment that Australia needs to "lead through kindness" on refugees and the climate crisis.